Don't get me wrong, I like both movies and have seen them numerous times. I was just making the point while Joe says baseball is enjoyable regardless, I have no urge at all to watch the Dodgers, Yankees, and Mets dominate the season. Of course, that could be because I'm a Reds and Angels fan and know they have no shot at all to win it all, nevermind going to the playoffs. Good to see so many movie fans on here!
Well. The Yankees, to me, have been much smarter since they traded for Giancarlo. Looking at his years after his age 29, it's been a tough road to hoe for them. Now Gerritt's forthcoming season(s) may display Yanks future endeavors, pitching-wise. DJ seasons, for all intents and purposes, also illustrate unrealized gains. The Yanks signing rivals, now, are the cross-town Mets.
And for Giants fans - Cleveland signed 39 yr. old Carlos Santana - right out of the Giants playbook - older veteran, fan favorite, AND working that fountain! Where have you gone ... Brook Jacoby?
Rest of your point taken, but as a White Sox fan, calling Michael "21-33, 4.19" Kopech a Corvette is a bit rich, however good he looked for two months.
I've been calling the Yankees and Dodgers Deathstar East and Deathstar West for some time now. The Yankees need a new Emperor Palpatine to keep from slipping behind the Mets. Then again, the Mets at times have seemed like the East Coast version of the Angels so who knows?
I first noticed, the red keys, corresponding to the famous red number on the uniform, long considered by Vin Scully and others as what made the dodgers uniform "POP" and look so wonderful. FOUR Red keys and TWO more for Jack Roosevelt Robinson.
If Someone else noticed this, sorry, couldn't read thru all the comments and just saw the email.
When my Warriors secured KD, the NBA short-circuited the ability to sign anyone that wanted to play with Steph, hence the 1st AND 2nd apron that handcuffs squads trying to build super teams. NFL has had the salary cap in place for quite awhile.
MLB simply allows the Dodgers/Yankees to sign ANYBODY & EVERYBODY and has no salary cap but implements a luxury tax. : (
i already sang 'Effing Dodgers'; i have despised the Dodgers all my life, now they are too easy to despise- and no, i do NOT think what they're doing is good for baseball... i hope it all blows up in their faces next year and they're bounced in their 1st playoff series...
Remember when Tiger Woods was at his peak? Going into a tournament, people were debating if they'd rather take Tiger or The Field. Most chose Tiger. This is the Dodgers right now. Who do you think will win the World Series -- the Dodgers or the Field?
It’s good (great) to have a villain. But the villain has to arrive organically (like the Yankees in the 90s) and offer some vulnerability (like the Yankees in the 00s). Otherwise it’s the Yankees in the 1950s. I fear the Dodgers are about to tip the scales.
From 1947 to 1956, of the 20 pennant winners, 16 were based in New York. That wasn't Golden for People from Boston or St Louis or Philadelphia or Chicago (just naming the cities that had 2 chances at a pennant every year for most of that period)
Joe - Were you Typing the word DODGERS? Lol. Ok. A dominant team is always going to be. Or several dominant teams. The one thing i find interesting about the Dodgers - they manage to also invest in their farm systems. And every so often, bring up someone really good!
On another note - Arod and Manny didn't break thru the Baseball Federation Blockade. Maybe they're stuck on the planet Naboo?
OK, first things first. I'm a lifelong, diehard San Francisco sports fan. Giants, 49ers, Warriors (then and now). Even the Golden Seals for a bit. So, reading this article by Joe, who I love, about the dodgers, who I don't love, was PAINFUL! My take on this whole dodger thing is that they are SO ripe for an upset. Go Giants :)
This Dodgers run reminds me vaguely of how, when the Phillies made the World Series two years in a row and THEN acquired Roy Halladay and Roy Oswalt (and re-acquired Cliff Lee in 2011 on top of it), I and a lot of other people penciled them in for at least one championship. Then they ran into the first of those charmed Giants teams. I'm not suggesting that the 2025 Giants are the team to unseat the Dodgers, but I don't think their march to the championship is inevitable.
If I'm wrong, and they reel off three effortless titles or so in a row, then I'll get sick of them.
You know who I kinda feel sorry for? Dave Roberts. He can only lose. If he wins everyone will just go, "Yeah, but look at the team, that's insane, I could manage that team to a championship."
Unless, like last fall, they have tons of injuries and he threads the needle in the postseason. Otherwise...
If having a more competitive season is the goal, then I believe a salary cap (maximum and minimum) is the best way of achieving that goal. But to be effective, such a cap should also include on a prorated basis all deferred salary. It may benefit the player to have deferred compensation, but it doesn’t level the playing field at all when a player’s full compensation is not calculated as part of the salary cap total.
My understanding is that with deferrals, the league calculates the present value of the contract, and then uses the annual average of the present value for luxury tax purposes. In Shohei's case, the value of the contract was $460 million, so each year the Dodgers take a $46 million hit against their CBT payroll number. In addition, the Dodgers need to put the value of the deferred money into an escrow account each year of the contract.
Wait wait wait... why is Juan Soto a "Name Signing"? He's a generational talent. If he's a "Name Signing" then so was Ohtani. To me, a "Name Signing" is a signing where the name is meant to placate the fans by giving them the illusion of a quality signing that is based on the Name itself, rather than what the player adds to their new team. Juan Soto ain't that, no matter how much it makes the Mets fans happy.
It's overpaying, at least to some degree, for the famous name? The impact of the signing? By that, a real star will always be a "name" signing to some extent.
Otherwise, you're paying more or less normal market for a player whose price wasn't significantly bid up...
Don't get me wrong, I like both movies and have seen them numerous times. I was just making the point while Joe says baseball is enjoyable regardless, I have no urge at all to watch the Dodgers, Yankees, and Mets dominate the season. Of course, that could be because I'm a Reds and Angels fan and know they have no shot at all to win it all, nevermind going to the playoffs. Good to see so many movie fans on here!
Well. The Yankees, to me, have been much smarter since they traded for Giancarlo. Looking at his years after his age 29, it's been a tough road to hoe for them. Now Gerritt's forthcoming season(s) may display Yanks future endeavors, pitching-wise. DJ seasons, for all intents and purposes, also illustrate unrealized gains. The Yanks signing rivals, now, are the cross-town Mets.
And for Giants fans - Cleveland signed 39 yr. old Carlos Santana - right out of the Giants playbook - older veteran, fan favorite, AND working that fountain! Where have you gone ... Brook Jacoby?
Rest of your point taken, but as a White Sox fan, calling Michael "21-33, 4.19" Kopech a Corvette is a bit rich, however good he looked for two months.
I've been calling the Yankees and Dodgers Deathstar East and Deathstar West for some time now. The Yankees need a new Emperor Palpatine to keep from slipping behind the Mets. Then again, the Mets at times have seemed like the East Coast version of the Angels so who knows?
I first noticed, the red keys, corresponding to the famous red number on the uniform, long considered by Vin Scully and others as what made the dodgers uniform "POP" and look so wonderful. FOUR Red keys and TWO more for Jack Roosevelt Robinson.
If Someone else noticed this, sorry, couldn't read thru all the comments and just saw the email.
When my Warriors secured KD, the NBA short-circuited the ability to sign anyone that wanted to play with Steph, hence the 1st AND 2nd apron that handcuffs squads trying to build super teams. NFL has had the salary cap in place for quite awhile.
MLB simply allows the Dodgers/Yankees to sign ANYBODY & EVERYBODY and has no salary cap but implements a luxury tax. : (
i already sang 'Effing Dodgers'; i have despised the Dodgers all my life, now they are too easy to despise- and no, i do NOT think what they're doing is good for baseball... i hope it all blows up in their faces next year and they're bounced in their 1st playoff series...
Remember when Tiger Woods was at his peak? Going into a tournament, people were debating if they'd rather take Tiger or The Field. Most chose Tiger. This is the Dodgers right now. Who do you think will win the World Series -- the Dodgers or the Field?
It’s good (great) to have a villain. But the villain has to arrive organically (like the Yankees in the 90s) and offer some vulnerability (like the Yankees in the 00s). Otherwise it’s the Yankees in the 1950s. I fear the Dodgers are about to tip the scales.
From 1947 to 1956, of the 20 pennant winners, 16 were based in New York. That wasn't Golden for People from Boston or St Louis or Philadelphia or Chicago (just naming the cities that had 2 chances at a pennant every year for most of that period)
Joe - Were you Typing the word DODGERS? Lol. Ok. A dominant team is always going to be. Or several dominant teams. The one thing i find interesting about the Dodgers - they manage to also invest in their farm systems. And every so often, bring up someone really good!
On another note - Arod and Manny didn't break thru the Baseball Federation Blockade. Maybe they're stuck on the planet Naboo?
More like the swamp planet of Dagobah.
I hate how they allowed to get away with the Shohei contract.
OK, first things first. I'm a lifelong, diehard San Francisco sports fan. Giants, 49ers, Warriors (then and now). Even the Golden Seals for a bit. So, reading this article by Joe, who I love, about the dodgers, who I don't love, was PAINFUL! My take on this whole dodger thing is that they are SO ripe for an upset. Go Giants :)
This Dodgers run reminds me vaguely of how, when the Phillies made the World Series two years in a row and THEN acquired Roy Halladay and Roy Oswalt (and re-acquired Cliff Lee in 2011 on top of it), I and a lot of other people penciled them in for at least one championship. Then they ran into the first of those charmed Giants teams. I'm not suggesting that the 2025 Giants are the team to unseat the Dodgers, but I don't think their march to the championship is inevitable.
If I'm wrong, and they reel off three effortless titles or so in a row, then I'll get sick of them.
i love the Gianta, and despise the Dodgers and hope everything blows up in their face!!!
You know who I kinda feel sorry for? Dave Roberts. He can only lose. If he wins everyone will just go, "Yeah, but look at the team, that's insane, I could manage that team to a championship."
Unless, like last fall, they have tons of injuries and he threads the needle in the postseason. Otherwise...
If having a more competitive season is the goal, then I believe a salary cap (maximum and minimum) is the best way of achieving that goal. But to be effective, such a cap should also include on a prorated basis all deferred salary. It may benefit the player to have deferred compensation, but it doesn’t level the playing field at all when a player’s full compensation is not calculated as part of the salary cap total.
My understanding is that with deferrals, the league calculates the present value of the contract, and then uses the annual average of the present value for luxury tax purposes. In Shohei's case, the value of the contract was $460 million, so each year the Dodgers take a $46 million hit against their CBT payroll number. In addition, the Dodgers need to put the value of the deferred money into an escrow account each year of the contract.
Wait wait wait... why is Juan Soto a "Name Signing"? He's a generational talent. If he's a "Name Signing" then so was Ohtani. To me, a "Name Signing" is a signing where the name is meant to placate the fans by giving them the illusion of a quality signing that is based on the Name itself, rather than what the player adds to their new team. Juan Soto ain't that, no matter how much it makes the Mets fans happy.
It's overpaying, at least to some degree, for the famous name? The impact of the signing? By that, a real star will always be a "name" signing to some extent.
Otherwise, you're paying more or less normal market for a player whose price wasn't significantly bid up...
Nothing makes Mets fans happy. They’re already moaning that their team has gone small after the Soto signing.